Snapped Wheel Bolt!

[PembsPanther]

Evening All :)

 

Took the Gal back in for MOT today after I missed the re-test window like a plank last week! Sods law being what it is the examiner found a new problem being a snapped wheel bolt on a rear wheel, typically it has sheared (not done by me!) and now I need to figure out a way of getting the dam thing out! I could pay the garage to do it but then that would be no fun would it :)

 

So a game plan is needed and for this sort of thing I have a tool shortage, never had a need for any extraction tools so not got any, I will have to buy something but the questions is what? Ideally a Mig Welder then I could just weld another nut to the top and spin it off, don't think the wife will be up for me spending that much though :( Was thinking a left handed drill bit:

 

 

 

 

Seems like a common sense kind of idea, doubt very much it will spin the bolt out though not a wheel bolt but you never know I am due some luck :) Failing that I would be left with a nice neat central hole to pop in an extractor something like the one below but I need to research and find a decent quality one:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5PC-Stud-Screw-Extractor-Set-Hand-Tools-Engineering-Easy-Out-Garage-1p-Start-/201438047153?hash=item2ee6a4abb1

 

If that fails then I suppose the only other way is to replace the whole hub / bearing piece, need to research though and see how these are set up almost certainly press in so really not an option.

 

Have any of you ever had to do this? What did you do? Any other ways of getting them out I do not know about? Other tools? Tips tricks? Anything? :)

 

Thanks in advance

 

[gregers]

something like this ?

https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/3162722

did look at your link and like the 1 ive posted the trouble you may have is,the reason the stud has snapped could be because it was whizzed in by a spanner working at a fast fit center.which basically means what ever you buy MAY not be strong enough to actually remove it and will snapped whatever you use.

 

so it could mean your now the owner of a mig welder ;)

[PembsPanther]

Hey Gregers

 

Thanks for the reply :) That link looks like the job but already ordered from Amazon earlier today,for the extractors I went with a Hilka set, cheap under a tenner but looked about the best of the bunch:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005UBYGKE?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

 

The the left hand drill bits I went for these:

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0154WL8IQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

 

After asking around today I have heard some good things about these left cutting bit so am hopeful, I did have the wheel off today to have a good luck, sods law again a bit of a lip poking up but not enough to get any grip on:

 

http://i57.tinypic.com/242svth.jpg

 

 

http://oi62.tinypic.com/14awh1l.jpg

 

 

I spent an hour heating, bashing and spraying penetrating oil around the area where the bolt is and also sprayed inside, will do the same tomorrow for an hour just before I attempt removal.

 

All the other wheel nuts on this wheel were super tight and very hard to undo, lots of rust and goo, soaked them in petrol for about an hour then wired brushed them all off with some WD40 and brake cleaner, the also bashed around the threads on the hub to loosen as much as I could then blasted them all out with brake cleaner, went back together a lot easier, also got rid of the blasted locking nut of this wheel now as well, 1 more to go but I need to source a couple of new wheel bolts first.

 

Any thoughts anyone?

 

Oh do you think it is also ready for some new brake discs? Ha ha ha........

Edited September 30, 2015 by PembsPanther

[BrianH]

Might be a stupid question, but can't you get more to work with by taking the brake disc off first? You might get some luck trying to get a pair of mole grips on the bit you can then grab hold of?

 

I've brought new wheel bolts off ebay before if your struggling to find, though you can find them in the scrapyard if you have time to do so. They won't be a fortune from dealers if you can find one with them available.

[daddyfixit]

1. centre punch a dot in dead centre of broken stud

2. go to toolstation for some cobalt drill bits (3,4,5,6,7,8,9 mm---I bought 2 of each as I was on a lonely shopping day  !! )

3. drill a pilot hole with the smallest drill bit

4. drill the hole again with a larger drill bit

5. keep going until there is very little left of the stud  DONT BREAK THROUGH THE SIDES OR THREADS GET DAMAGED

6. Try the BIGGEST extractor that you have

7. or if you have a set of 1/2 drive torx sockets ----hammer the biggest one possible into the hole and use rachet or breaker bar to loosen it

[BrianH]

These things also have helped with removing stubborn rounded off bolts in the past if you can get enough exposed to hammer them onto and find the size you require

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Irwin-Bolt-Grip-Remover-394001/dp/B0000CCXVZ/

[viperclive]

New brake discs n pads mate easier!

[xavier]

have to agree, get the disc off and you'll get more to work with. One thing I'd say is be very careful not to break off the drill bit in the bolt, could cause you a whole world of pain that.

 

I did the rear discs and pads at the weekend, took some pics too. Though your discs look great compared to mine!

[sparky Paul]

As BrianH says above, take the disk off, you should get that out with mole grips or small stillsons/footprints etc..

 

Once the bolt head is snapped off, the tension is off the bolt threads and it should come out after a good soak.